Saturday, April 19, 2008
Gun Review: Kahr PM40
Recently I embarked on a quest to find the best OD/BUG (off-duty / back up gun) on the market. This is a quest I undertake from time to time. After all, technology changes, my particular needs might change, etc. What does not change, however, is that I need a weapon that is comfortable enough to carry 85-90% of the time (saving the smallest and lightest and less powerful for that other 10-15%). That weapon must be reliable, reasonably accurate, and preferably chamber a duty-caliber round. If all else fails, I'm willing to take a .380 but I normally reserve that for my tiniest OD/BUG, the Kel-Tec P3AT.
Well, I wound up recently purchasing a very lightly used ("Like New Condition") Kahr PM40. By very lightly used, it was, so the dealer told me, bought new by a deputy a couple o'counties over. Said lawman put, reportedly, two magazines or less through it and promptly traded it in. Hmmm ... I love a challenge! In fairness, it did not appear to have any wear whatsoever on it. When I closely examined the interior I saw a very fine amount of smudge on the inside. About right for a couple o'mags, I reckoned.
First, let me describe this little wonder. It's a double action only (DAO), polymer framed ultra-compact pistol chambered in .40 S&W. Mine came with a stainless steel slide, barrell, and trigger. The finish is matte, bordering on satin. The trigger pull is quite smooth and easily managed without being nerve-wrackingly light. It measures 5.35" long, 4" high, .94" thick, and weighs about 17 ounces with an empty magazine.
I'm actually amazed at how close it is to the size of my uber-tiny Kel-Tec P3AT .380. It looks like it's maybe 1/3 bigger, but that's just an eye-ball guess. I haven't done any actual measuring yet. Still, it's under an inch thick (just) and rides very comfortably in my waistband inside a Don Hume clip-on leather holster. The thin, formed leather adds very little bulk and the reinforced mouth let's it stay open for relatively easy reholstering. I've worn it IWB (inside waist band) behind my hip, cross-draw, appendix, and even just barely fore and aft of 3 o'clock (along the outseam of my pants) and in all those posts, it concealed under an XL t-shirt. I've also worn it quite a bit in an Uncle Mike's pocket holster. It literally just becomes a small not-at-all-gun-shaped lump in my office kahkis. It almost disappears in my relaxed fit Levis. This polymer framed Kahr is even comfortable on my ankle. That's something I could not say about it's slightly larger and much heavier brother, the K40 Covert.
The PM40 takes either flush-fitting 5-round magazines, or 6-round mags that extend about a finger's width below the grip. My PM40 came with one of each, the 6-rounder having a large polymer floorplate that fills in the gap between the bottom of the pistol's grip and the bottom of the magazine. Some folks who've held it commented that they preferred the longer magazine as they did not like having to curl a finger underneath the grip. I personally prefer as small a grip as possible. Why? Simply put (and generally), the smaller the grip, the less bulk there is to print under a shirt. So long as there's enough to get a grip on when drawing, I'm usually happy. But, to each their own. I even heard a few comments to the effect that it was "too small." Sure, I've carried even full-sized USP .45 concealed and yes, I mean in this semi-tropical environment of the SouthEastern Gulf Coast. I can carry big guns concealed. I don't like carrying big guns concealed. It's not comfortable (for me, anyway ... I'm 5'09" with a waist that varies from 34" to 36" depending 'pon the season). This little Kahr is quite comfortable and in several modes of carry. Plus, it's light enough that it doesn't drag down the pants even in pocket carry and send all sorts of red flares up.
My model came with Trijicon Express-style sites rather than the standard ones. These feature a huge white dot front site and a rear site that, rather than the typical square cut-out, is just dished down somewhat from left to right, with a vertical white stripe down the rear center. Both the dot and the stripe feature Trijicon's glow-in-the-dark feature. Express-style sites are not designed for precision target shooting. They are designed to come up on target very quickly and go back on target very quickly after recoil. They do that and do it very well. Put that huge dot on the target, bring it down to dot-the-i over the rear site, squeeze the trigger, and ... there you go. A few days prior I had been shooting a friend's PM9 (fractionally smaller if you happen to have a micrometer handy, but otherwise virtually the same pistol in 9x19mm). His had standard gun sites installed. I was able to make hits on metal Pepper Poppers (chest sized falling metal plates) out as far as 75 yards. With my PM40 and it's express sites, though, I was having great difficulty repeating that feat. For one thing, at that distance that big front dot covers most of the target. Nevertheless, this ultra compact is not designed for precision target shooting. From 25 yards and in, it is very, very fast on target and very easy to hit with. From 15 yards and in, it really begins to shine. At the more realistic self defense range of 7 yards and in, I can't think of faster set of iron sites on a pistol.
Now then, recoil is, in a word, interesting. I equate it with shooting an air-weight j-frame .38 special with hot and heavy +P loads. After about half a box of Winchester "White Box" 180 grain FMJs, the web of my firing hand around the thumb joint was aching. I don't view this as a problem, however, unless one is recoil sensitive. This is not a pistol you're going to be firing a whole lot. The next day I qualified with it on our off-duty/back-up course. This consists of a total of 25 rounds fired from 15 yards, 7 yards, and from the hip at 3 feet. The last bit concerned me simply due to the fact that this being such a light pistol in such a high pressure cartridge, the shooter must fight the recoil or risk a feeding failure. Indeed I had one during the course. I limp-wristed the second shot and the slide did not go back far enough to load the next round. It tied up with the next round nose-diving into the feedramp. All it took to resume firing was to tug the slide back and let go. Still, it was a lesson first I and then later another shooter had to learn. Do NOT limp wrist this pistol at all! The "firm but relaxed" grip we are taught to use on service pistols does not apply here. Grip that pistol like it's a highly venemous, very angry snake and hold on! The tendecy I've observed is that once the shooter realizes the recoil isn't in the light weight .44 magnum category (ouch!), the firing grip relaxes a bit and then curse words follow. So, hold on, hold on tightly, and you should be okay. In fact, the ten rounds I had to fire from three feet one-handed and from the hip did not produce any stoppages at all. I seem to actually do better holding it one-handed. Perhaps this is due to my normal manner in which, utilizing two hands, I actually let the "weak hand" do most of the gripping and mostly consentrate on using the firing hand to pull the trigger smoothly. My extensive experience with the tiny .380 P3AT taught me how to overcome these hard recoiling tiny guns that are so dependant on a very firm wrist.
Kahr pistols are quite expensive. I've seen used Kahrs go anywhere from $450 to a couple of hundred more, with most hovering around or just over the $600 mark. That's a lot of cash. Still, if your needs include a super small, very light, high quality, big-caliber pistol, I don't know where you'll find one in this class for less. I only have about 100 rounds or so, maybe a wee bit less through mine at this point, but so far [knock-on-wood] I have to say I approve.
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18 comments:
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Do you still like the PM40 ??
How did it compare to the PM9 ?
My local dealer is discouraging th e 40 due to past problems and recommends the 9 instead.
As i live in TN and often work on the coast, I like the small light idea.Thanks
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I'm glad you had good luck with the PM40. I've been very disappointed with mine. The slide won't go back into battery after I shoot and it's broken a magazine follower after only about 200 rounds. I spent over $750 on it and wish I would have bought another Sig or Glock.
PM40 Yea just bought well the mag follower broke the slide catch keeps popping up and stopping the next round from being chambered. getting mad about it i count on this gun for my life daily i might just have one shot. yea
I have had my PM40 for about 3-4 week now and have fired it 4-5 times, the first time being a full 50 round box. It was an experience that I approached very carefully. I will say that in putting another 150 rounds through it has never been a problem. I have tested/experinented with both magazines and am very satisfied and am convinced that I have a good gun! I am learning to love it and more importantly, trust it!
Shot my new PM40 a couple weeks ago... I love it. Just make sure to use the Kung Fu grip!
Anonymous, I am glad you like your PM40. You are sure right that you need to apply a "Kung Fu" grip. I would guess that I have now fired about 300-400 rounds through mine with absolutely no problems.
It is not a FUN gun to shoot and it isn't meant for target shooting, but it wasn't intended for this. I initially was somewhat sorry that I couldn't find the 9 mm version, but I am going to keep this little PM40.
I recently took it to a gun shop and observed the initial cleaning as it is not as easy to disassemble as a Glock. It is a tight little sucker! I'll clean it myself the next time.
I just received your message right into my email box which is cool.
Peter in Houston, TX
great review.. looking into purchasing a used one. anything i should look at before purchasing it? not going to be able to test fire it.
Sam, I still like my PM40. Just observe it if you can. These types of pistols don't get fired much so buying a used one is an excellent way to go. You save lots of $$$'s too!
Sam. The Carter's Country on Treaschwig has a used PM40 for $499.
Quick update: Several hundred rounds and many miles of carry on my PM40 and it's still my main OD/BUG pistol. I have to admit, though, given the strong dependence upon grip strength, I usually recommend most folks go for the PM9 (one more shot and in a cheaper caliber). To be honest, the bad guy's vitals won't know the diff between a .40 or a 9x19mm (or a .380, .32, .25...).
Peter, you're right about the lightly fired used ones. The other Kahr I bought (K-40 Covert) was a "fired two rounds and traded it" story.
I should stress, mine isn't PAINFUL to shoot, but it's not comfortable. I can see how someone who doesn't shoot much or has little experience with real recoil would walk away from one, though. Realizing that's a large portion of the CCW market, I again usually suggest the PM9. As for Express Sites vs. Standard Sites ... coin flip. Personally, though I'm all about those freaky long-range 'popper dropping shots, in truth they mean next to zero. Real In-Your-Face CQB won't give you a perfect site picture. I like the express sites for their uber-fast on target alignment. Your mileage, of course, may vary.
Great review. I have been reading various reviews for several days after getting my hands on one of my friends PM40s he will use as backup/off duty. Being 6'5", I have large hands, but this gun still fits me pretty well. Like you said, it is not an everyday shooter, and it seems to fit the bill for what it was designed for.
I just bought the PM40 about 2 weeks ago. The magazine is off about 1 - 2cm, so it won't easily chamber the first round. I have to press down really hard on the magazine to have it chamber that round. I spent over $800 bucks to have a light, concealed weapon...that can't be depended on. Go USED if you can. It shoots fine though once that first round is chambered. The "Kung Fu" grip is a must, as someone has already stated.
cmcgoogan:
I hate to hear yours is having trouble. But, if it's only the magazine that's the problem, order you another mag and don't trust that one! It might only give you trouble on the first round now, but can you honestly know without a doubt that in the heat of the moment it won't utterly fail? You could probably call Kahr and do a one-for-one swap. In any event the mags, though a wee bit pricey (retail $40 last I checked) is cheap insurance when you consider the alternative. Also, though magazines are often considered the weakness of the pistol design over the revolver, at least if a mag goes bad (some will eventually no matter what) it's an easy problem to fix.
My other Kahr, the K-40 Covert won't hold the short, 5-round mags in place under recoil. I need a new magazine catch and spring. Honestly, I've needed it for some time, but I put it up when I got the PM40 and just haven't bothered to take it back out and fix it. [bangs head on desk until forgiven]
Whatever happens, good luck and Stay Safe!
My PM40 had a nasty habit of staying open (as if empty) on the 2nd or 3rd round. I finally got an RA and sent it to Kahr for service. Came back "polished feed ramp and slide stop lever, lubed and test fired good." On the 43rd round it malfunctioned in the same way. Frustrated, I just parked it until tonight. Fired 50 rounds and it malfunctioned 12 - 15 times. Once it didn't fire after I released the slide because the round didn't chamber. It's still in warranty so I can send it back to Kahr ($60 FedEx) but don't know how that'll turn out based on last time. Any suggestions?
I had this happen to me until I figured this out.
When reassembling the Kahr PM 40 note when pushing in the assembly pin that it should be on the top of the bottom of the G spring otherwise it will remain in the open position after each shot.
I had this happen to me until I figured this out.
When reassembling the Kahr PM 40 note when pushing in the assembly pin that it should be on the top of the bottom of the G spring otherwise it will remain in the open position after each shot.
I had this happen to me until I figured this out.
When reassembling the Kahr PM 40 note when pushing in the assembly pin that it should be on the top of the bottom of the G spring otherwise it will remain in the open position after each shot.
I had this happen to me until I figured this out.
When reassembling the Kahr PM 40 note when pushing in the assembly pin that it should be on the top of the bottom of the G spring otherwise it will remain in the open position after each shot.
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