Kahr CW-380
Not so very long ago, presumably to
cash in on the quite understandable popularity of micro-mini-.380 pistols, Kahr
introduced the P380. Though it quite
frankly looks bigger than, say, the
Kel-Tec P3AT or that (in my humble opinion) blatant copy, the Ruger LCP, it is
in all honesty about the same size, overall (.4” taller and .3” shorter front
to back). It weights slightly more (9.97
ounces vs 7.75 ounces), but I can drop either on in a pair of walking shorts or
even lounge pants (hey, don’t judge) and tote it about without a problem. What the Kahr has that my previous favorite
lacks are a set of serious, very usable yet low-profile sights. It also features an external slide
lock. I don’t mean some itty-bitty
vestigial “feel-good” bit of metal added as a last minute touch of feature
creep. I mean it has a real, usable,
full “combat-style” slide lock. More in
a bit on why that is important beyond the obvious like cleaning and, oh, say
attending pretty much any shooting classes where the range-master will insist
you lock your slide open to prove it’s empty --- oh, yours doesn't lock
back? So sorry, no refunds, please leave
now and get a real gun. Okay, it wouldn't likely be that bad, but not being able to lock your weapon open to “show clear”
could make the difference between your weapon (i.e. the one you’re actually
going to use in real life) being accepted for a carry class and not.
Kahr CW380 & Kel-Tec P3AT - Two Tiny .380s |
CW380 literally fits in the palm of the hand. |
A friend of mine had one when he
moved back into my fair state and I had the privilege of shooting it. I loved the way it shot, not too snappy, very
accurate, uber-smooth trigger, etc., etc.
What I didn't like was the price.
I mean, I could make my quarterly house insurance payment (in a
hurricane prone area, south of the arbitrary “flood zone”) for the price of a
P380! Gadzooks, man! What was a miserly professional gun-toter
like me going to do about this?! Well,
not to worry, as I have previously purchased two, count ‘em TWO Kahr .40
caliber pistols (K-40 Covert and PM-40) for quite a bit below retail
(admittedly they were slightly used … two mags fired through the former and two
rounds fired through the latter
before they went up for sale for cheap).
I’m a Kahr fan and seem to be a magnet for good deals. Or so I was.
I couldn’t find such a sweet deal on the P-380.
I was not alone. Kahr apparently realized this was a problem
and introduced their CW line. These are
essentially the same pistols with some cost-saving steps taken in manufacturing
which bring them more into line with the average middle income budget, no need
for a second mortgage (I jest, but the full-on K, MK, P, and PM series are
quite pricey … think SIG-Sauer P226 pricey, but like those, well worth the
money). So, what are these drastic
cost-saving steps, you ask? What
butchery or sad lack of fitting does it take to cut a couple hundred (or so)
bucks off the cost of an otherwise fine firearm? Well, the CW line features, in lieu of the
polygonally rifled barrels of the other series, Ye Olde Standard button-rifled
barrel. You know, like most every
quality firearms manufacturer uses and is quite happy with. Oh, yeah the marking on the slide? On the higher end models these are laser
etched. The CW line makes do with simple
roll-makings (which are, to me, much more crisp and clear) … again, just like
most every other firearms manufacturer. Oh,
and they only come with one magazine.
Annoying, but certainly a problem easily sorted. Those are the only differences I can
find. Chime in if you personally know
more.
So, weekend before my Wedding
Anniversary/Valentine’s Day, there was a local gun show. Since my retiring last year after an
illustrious (or at least stress-filled) 25+ year police career, the chief of a
local tiny town and long-time friend of mine chased me around asking, demanding,
insisting, and pleading, and eventually plying me with booze until I agreed to
take a part-time post with their police department (“VERY part-time” I insisted … she just laughed, and laughed …). I’d just finished my first month of “I
thought this was supposed to be part-time
work!” and had, as happens, a fist full of money. More importantly this was unbudgeted
money. As happens, there was a local gun show that weekend. Joined by my friend, the P380 owner, I set about on a quest to find me a cool new shooting iron. About two hours later I came home with a brand new CW380. A quick online check showed Kahr mags
available from Kahr directly for about $40 each. Midway USA had them for something like $28
each which I found much more reasonable.
I even paid for the faster shipping because I might be a miser, but once
I spend money, I’m rather impatient. I
also picked up some A-Zoom aluminum snap caps (5-pack) of .380 for function
testing and getting used to the trigger until I could get some range time.
Next I did some side-by-side
comparisons of my new pistol to my other two aforementioned Kahr .40s. My CW380 looks like a shrunken version of my
PM40 in virtually every detail.
Actually, in comparing them, I was reminded just how incredibly tiny my
PM40 is (yes, it’s a brute to shoot, but we all have our crosses to bear). When looking at the two one is apt to think,
“Gee, that little .380 is only a little bit smaller than that .40, so why not
just carry the .40?” Why not
indeed. Once we see how much thicker the
PM40 is when compared to the CW380 however, we can see how in many types of pants
(jeans, say) the PM40 can print rather significantly and anything that can
cover that print will be big enough to cause a lot of suspicious or at least
curious looks at that pocket. The CW380,
roughly the same thickness as the P3AT (.2” thinner than the Kel-Tec, actually),
lends its self very well to deep cover concealment and as that nearly perfect
“always gun.”
CW380 and PM40 |
PM40 & CW380 - which do you think fits in a pocket better? |
Five days went by and I was finally
able to get to my preferred shooting range.
First, a word about Kahr pistols.
The manual says to load the first round out of a magazine into an empty
chamber by first locking back the slide (THIS is that other reason slide locks
are important on Kahr pistols), inserting the loaded mag, and tripping the
release. This is sage advice, especially
with a new pistol and failure to heed this advice caused nearly all my troubles on the range. When loading from the traditional
sling-shot method I suppose I either did not pull the slide completely to the rear or inadvertently let my hand ride it forward a fraction. I had very, very few
problems loading as the manual said to do it (when all else fails read the
bloody directions, y’know?). Kahr also recommends a 200 round break-in
phase. Yep, you are expected to put a
couple o’hundred rounds though their pistols before trusting them with your
life. Crazy, right? I mean, why not just grab a hunk of machinery
made by fallible human hands, toss in whatever load strikes your fancy and just
drop it on a pocket. WRONG! N-E-V-E-R trust A-N-Y firearm, especially a
new one (or a very well used one) without a test period that should include
some of the ammo you intend to carry in it.
Back in MY day, EVERY semi-auto was expected to go through that 200 round
break-in phase. Malfunctions were expected
(and happened) but the repeated use smoothed bearing surfaces, wore away tiny
burrs, and soon the whole thing was polished up inside and ran like you
expected it to. We've been spoiled by
Glocks and SIGs and a few others but honestly, I've seen most top brand pistols
have trouble out-of-the-box. Some just
needed breaking in, some were apparently “Monday or Friday guns” (you know, crew in a hurry to leave for the weekend on Friday and still hung over come Monday) and needed to
go back to the factory for rework or replacement.
So, internet pundits’ ravings and
rants aside, I have no problem with a break-in period because I intend to give
all my new and new-to-me such a trial.
Mine, by the way, broke in with 100 rounds. First up, I ran some Blazer Brass 95 grain
FMJs through it, then some Remington 95 grain FMJs, a few Winchester “flat
points,” their “White Box” FMJs, and last some of my cherished stash of carry
ammo: Federal 90 grain Hydra-Shoks. Accuracy was fine with all. To be honest, the pistol could shoot better
than I could as I had in my new contacts and they don’t do well with near
vision. So, I made do with low-powered
reading glasses to get a mostly clear sight picture and a very to extremely
blurry sight picture.
First, the bad. Yes, I had some feeding issues. Mostly I had failure to go fully into battery
and a simple push on the rear of the slide was all it took to set things back
right again. I had maybe five or six
what are to me uniquely Kahr feeding failures.
It’s almost like the cartridge is too long and it wedges with the upper
part of the tip just inside the chamber, the tip of the rim seems to be at the
bottom of the extractor and no amount of pushing, or finagling will get it
seated. The only way to run it is to do
what you should do anyway, tap-rack-ready (tap the mag to be sure it’s seated,
rack the slide to clear everything and reload, and then re-evaluate the
target/threat/situation). Those cleared
up before the end. Again, I stress, the
piece was brand new and began to get pretty dirty from the assorted (old) ammo
I was putting through it. Once, about
2/3 of the way through all of this, I ran an impromptu patch through the
chamber and the problem did not repeat.
Ejection was positive but not overly energetic. By that, I mean the empties got clear, life
was good, and I didn't get whacked in the forehead with the brass. I had a couple of weird stovepipe-like jams
where the empty was caught long ways between the breech face and the top of the
chamber mouth. These instance were almost certainly my fault and were due to my grip as I kept
falling back on my standard duty-pistol grip (support hand mainly holds the
weapon, firing hand is just there to pull the trigger, firing hand thumb across
base of support thumb, support thumb alongside the frame, pointed at the
target). This is not going to work with
such a small and snappy pistol. Felt
recoil was not at all unpleasant (less than my Kel-Tec P3AT) but you must
really grip this little blaster so that its slide and springs do all the
work. Hold a bit too loosely and … well,
if you don’t understand that, you probably don’t need to be carrying such a
weapon. Some careful study showed that the two-handed "duty pistol grip" as described above allows a minute gap between part of the tiny backstrap and the shooting hand resulting in a less than fully secure hold. This, I've found to be the case with most if not all micro-mini-guns. You have to HOLD them VERY FIRMLY and they are really meant for quick one-handed shooting, not careful two-handed aimed fire.
By the last three mags, I had no feeding issues whatsoever. One mag stovepiped the last round. The next did that weird Kahr lengthwise stovepipe. The last simply did not lock back after the last round was fired. Those are all primarily symptoms of my grip relaxing a bit on the last round. As I was concentrating on shooting tiny groups with my aforementioned visual issues, I could well have eased up my grip. This did not happen when I was shooting fast, one-handed combat-style at various targets. In fact, when shooting it fast and one-handed, after the first few mags went through it, I had zero problems. This is not a target pistol or a range pistol. It’s meant to be pulled and fired one-handed (though it is capable of quite good accuracy).
By the last three mags, I had no feeding issues whatsoever. One mag stovepiped the last round. The next did that weird Kahr lengthwise stovepipe. The last simply did not lock back after the last round was fired. Those are all primarily symptoms of my grip relaxing a bit on the last round. As I was concentrating on shooting tiny groups with my aforementioned visual issues, I could well have eased up my grip. This did not happen when I was shooting fast, one-handed combat-style at various targets. In fact, when shooting it fast and one-handed, after the first few mags went through it, I had zero problems. This is not a target pistol or a range pistol. It’s meant to be pulled and fired one-handed (though it is capable of quite good accuracy).
Next, the good. The little pistol is VERY accurate. From 21 feet I tore up the center of the
target (mini-silhouette). I often as not
got two rounds in one ragged hole. This
pistol is far more accurate and its sights far more usable than anyone has a
right to expect such a weapon to be. Part of the credit goes to the excellent and
very smooth DAO trigger. I could hit
“Pepper-poppers” from 25 yards with boring regularity. As often as not I could hit them from 40
yards. 50 yards … well … a man just has
to know his limits, I suppose. Actually
I was shooting a bent ‘popper that functioned as a gong. Chances are, even if I hit it, I’d not have
heard the “ding!” But lacking firm
evidence to the contrary, we’ll call the fifty yard shots misses. I’m not proud … much. Recoil, as I said, was mild, especially for a
tiny .380 pistol. Actually the front and
backstraps of the grip are very aggressively checkered and gripping it hard
enough to ensure no error on my part was far less comfortable than actually
firing the weapon.
First 15 rounds scored me a 100% on our BUG/OD course! |
Hard to tell, but that's SIX rounds (fired from 7 yards) |
Up to 18 rounds in by this point (7 yards) - gotta count the holes very carefully. |
I kind of lost count at this point. I was up to either a total of 4 or 5 mags. Point is, if the bad guy is at across the living room range, he's toast. |
Magazines fall free and fresh ones
go in smoothly. After a while, I could
load from slide lock by pulling the slide the rest of the way back and
releasing it smartly. This is good as
not only do I shoot left-handed but that is the proper way to reload from
slide-lock under stress as lock levers take much finer motor skills than you’re
likely to possess in such times.
Yes, I like my new CW380. After this last outing it is riding in my
left front pocket in a holster I made for it.
The two spares are in the opposite side pocket in a repurposed nylon
card wallet. No, I don’t worry about a
possible stovepipe on the last round.
Why? Because I’ll be bringing the
weapon up close into my “work space,” dropping the empty mag, ramming in a fresh
one, and racking the slide. It makes no
difference whether the slide is locked by its latch or an empty casing. That is assuming I will even have the opportunity in a gun fight to reload. Honestly, if there are multiple threats closing and they don't scatter after I start shooting, there likely won't be time for reloading. In any event, there were only three such FTE issues throughout my 100 rounds of shooting. Thus I wager Ejection Issues won't be an issue
over the next 100 rounds or less. So, I
have my summertime main gun, my “always gun,” and the boon companion to my
other two Kahr pistols. I think I made out well indeed! J
A quick 3 shots at a target of opportunity (7 yards) |
Another target of opportunity and another quick 3 shots. |
I've now had this little wonder for almost a year and have had more range time with it. I've learned a couple of things. First off, do NOT feed it steel cased ammo unless you want to spend the afternoon performing malfunction clearance drills. Second, I am now convinced all of my earlier issue were simply due to my grip. Shooting one-handed, even rapid fire has produced zero malfunctions (so long as I wasn't "trying to save a few bucks" by shooting steel cased .380 ammo). Shooting two-handed using the old "Cup and Saucer" hold produced excellent groups and 100% reliability. So in my case the "break-in period" was to break ME of shooting it like a larger duty weapon. I have several carry weapons on rotation (particularly now that I'm back to purely Retired LEO status now) yet this tiny Kahr CW380 winds up in my pocket (and occasionally in my waistband) more often than just about any other firearm.